Divergent Response Question

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We have learned some very interesting things about this society in which Beatrice lives in, especially in regards to becoming Dauntless! There are 11 Dauntless born and 9 transfers. Of these only 10 will become Dauntless, the rest will become factionless.

What do you think about this? Is it fair?

Should people become factionless if they can’t cut it?

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16 thoughts on “Divergent Response Question

    Adam said:
    December 13, 2013 at 9:57 am

    I don’t think it’s fair that people that aren’t in the top 10 get exiled from the Dauntless. I think this is because they don’t even get more than 1 chance to succeed in the challenge. If the people don’t succeed in the top 10, they should not become factionless. I think this because if someone is factionless, they become homless, they have bad clothing, and their life is bad. The jobs they get are garbage people and construction workers. If they don’t succeed, they should have to wait until the next choosing ceremony. In conclusion, that is why I think it isn’t fair.

    darren said:
    December 13, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Divergent response

    I think it is unfair that if you fail you are a factionless. I know this because you will be hungry, lonely, cold, and won’t have any shelter to live in. Also I think the dauntless should just get more beds so there will be more dauntless than factionless.

    Kiara:) said:
    December 16, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Divergent Response

    I think it is fair to all these transfers who don’t become apart of this faction because it will be less people on their faction and less mouths to feed.

    I think it’s a good way to handle all the extra transfers because they have to be good being a “soldier” type or they might fail at what they’re doing.

    I think they shouldn’t because they will feel bad or left out because of all of the “good at their faction” transfers would be a higher level then the ones who fail being apart of the Dauntless faction.

    By: Kiara

    brendan said:
    December 16, 2013 at 9:57 am

    I think it’s not fair to factionless because only 10 would be Dauntless and the other 10 would be factionless. What I think about this is that people would be factionless if they don’t cut it and the factionless would die of hunger and dehydration.

    Chloe said:
    December 16, 2013 at 9:59 am

    DIVERGENT
    I don’t think it is fair only 10 people can stay Dauntless and the rest become factionless because if you imagine this like school, there are 20 students and they are about to have a big test. But in the end, only 10 people got A’s so they got to stay in class, while the remaining students, who got lower grades than an A, are kicked out of the class for good. I also don’t think it is fair that the “losers” become factionless. I don’t think it is fair because they may have gotten one point or one score lower than the top 10 that get to stay, and it isn’t really fair that way. Again, if you think about this, it is also like school too. It is not fair that Eric and the other leaders of the Dauntless get to choose if you become factionless because of a test of what your cut out for. Also, the Dauntless who remain have to deal with this “ranking” every year because new 16 year olds transfer to Dauntless at the choosing ceremony.

    Sylvia said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Divergent

    No, I don’t think it is fair to become factionless if you dont make it to Dauntless.

    I know this because everyone in Dauntless is working really hard, and if you dont try your hardest, you get punnished for the rest of your life.

    This shows that the people who did’nt make it to Dauntless, have to live on the streets fo the rest of their lives , all because of one mistake.

    Also, the fact that there are only ten people who will for sure make it to Dauntless, and the rest have to live on the streets, is very sad.

    madison said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:05 am

    I think it is not fair because that if you do fail you become factionless. I know this because your life will be a mess because you will be happy less and you won’t have a house to live in. So I think the dauntless are being un fair to the 20 kids so should stop the factionless and factions.

    bryce said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Reading response
    .I think it is fair because they have to be put threw the test and so they can trust you and believe that you can fight and guard the city and protect the city and I think that the tests are good so they can stretch there strengths and make sure they can trust them.

    Taylor said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:07 am

    No, because everyone should be included. Being left out or excluded makes people feel bad and then they start to think that people don’t care about them.

    rubina said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I think people should not become faction less because it’s not fair to other people. Also if one of the teenagers goes faction less they’re going to feel lonely and sad. There can only be 10 people that can move forward. I wonder who is going to move forward.

    Daniel said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Divergent

    I think people that are training for Dauntless should be cut if they don’t succeed I think this because it will be more efficient if you have an army with fewer but well trained soldiers than wasting supplies on a large army that is under trained and inexperienced than the other army.

    I think only 10 out of the 20 should be cut I this because you’d rather have less people that are easier to train than the other 10 that will have trouble in battle and will be probably be harder to train and/or don’t have the heart to train so roughly.

    I don’t think people should become faction less if they fail the tests I think this because you should get another chance, and for example if you got to grade 4 and you failed a test you got kicked out of school and you couldn’t get a job later in life

      Mr. Purdon responded:
      December 16, 2013 at 10:17 am

      I like your thinking. As protectors wouldn’t you want just the best?

    marta said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Divergent

    I think that if you do not make it through initiation it’s not fair that you try your hardest and become faction less. People should not become homeless if they do make it through initiation, just because you do not pass a test does not mean you go out on the street to clean bathrooms, fix trains, and be discluded from the society. What it means to be dauntless is to fight, shoot a gun, be brave, jump off buildings, act like a daredevil, and get pierced and tattooed. So being dauntless is to do dangerous things.

    Connor said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I think it is not fair that only 10 out of 20 people only become dauntless. The other 10 become factionless if they can’t cut it (Homeless) it’s because dauntless is basically choosing them. No faction has the right to make you factionless. It would be easier to just to kill the person, then to make him factionless. What I think about dauntless they are just cruel Just plain cruel. That’s why People shouldn’t become factionless if they can’t cut it.

    By Connor 

    CALEB said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Agree or Disagree for Divergent

    I agree that if dauntless fail they become faction less because some Dauntless are born and are trained for Dauntless the others are not trained and tested hard tests that they never even seen or picked up items that was there!

    Beatrice has never seen a hamburger and never held a gun and is going to get three bird tattoos she also changed her name to Trice!

    Stated: December 16th 2013
    Done: December 16th 2013

    By:Caleb 

    Elyse said:
    December 16, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Should people become factionoless if they can’t cut it? What do you think about this? Is it fair? I think it is not fair because it is men.
    By Elyse

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